I wish I had hair, but I don’t. I am a psychologist and I am trying to understand why being bald impacts my psyche. I spend too much time looking at forums, reading articles and websites to see if I am willing to have a hair transplant, but can’t quite bring myself to do that radical procedure. Lots of horror stories that catch my eye. Your thoughts?
As you can imagine, I’m full bald. I usually shave my head a few times a week and overall I’m not completely unhappy about it. Though, I think it was more curiosity that maybe something amazing could happen and so I’m taking 1mg of fin, and I’ll be using topical minoxidil and I’ve been microneedling for the past month. I’ve also got tretinoin and I’ve been on a serious skin care journey.
I would want to probe your claim of hair loss onset at 12. Showing photos will help. There are hairline changes that occur in some men at 12, but that is not hair loss, but often a maturing hairline. Most men don’t see hair loss until their late teens. This is earmarked by miniaturization in certain impacted hairs, often in the Norwood Classification photos. See an expert to manage the process so that you have a clear idea as to what is happening to you. Do you have a long term plan? Are you considering hair transplants if what you are now doing doesn’t work out?
So I’ve been on finasteride for about 3 years and it’s been great, I also just had a hair transplant about 2 months ago. I started oral minoxidil right after the transplant. On my dad’s side every single man has a full beard, and I personally hate facial hair on me. I like to be well kept and plus I have a nice jawline, I just look better without facial hair. I shave almost twice a day already because of how fast it grows. And oh my lawd, I swear it’s even more thick and grows even more insanely fast ever since I started minoxidil. Actually all my body hair is just growing extremely fast. Will I have to deal with this as long as I’m taking oral minoxidil?
This is the way your body responds to oral minoxidil. It may be the cost you have to pay.
What if I try to enhance the enzyme activity in the scalp with Tretinoin and 1.5mm microneedling. If it still doesn’t respond after combining min tret and microneedling, then maybe I its time to think about oral.
I’m afraid I have to disagree with your logic. If your scalp doesn’t contain Sulfotransferases, then adding Tretinoin may increase some systemic absorption, but 1.5mm microneedling will not make the drug active in the scalp skin. Microneedling may help independently; however, as the liver contains the appropriate enzymes, minoxidil should be effective when taken orally.
I have written extensively on SMP, and it has its limitations: (1) there are significant variables results due to the operator’s skills, (2) variable results due to inks used, (3) fades and changes over time, especially when exposed to sun. SMP works great when used with a hair transplant, as the SMP background impact makes a hair transplant look fuller. I recommend it when my patient has fine hair. I had transplants, for example, and I have fine hair that developed as I got older, so I had SMP done to address this Age Related Thinning problem, see here: https://baldingblog.com/i-just-finished-my-smp-on-my-crown-area-today-see-before-and-after-photos/. Remember, SMP is not hair. The final decision is yours, of course. If you get SMP, ask the person doing it to allow you to meet someone like me who had SMP for 3 or more years. That will tell you if you like what you might be getting.
As only 50% of men have genetic balding, that means that 505 of male models probably are not using any drugs to retain their hair
Age: 28: I was quoted 3800 grafts (3000 scalp, 600 chest and 200 beard) for the front and another surgery for the crown (which idk how many grafts it will still need). Thoughts on:
Frontal density regarding 3800
Would the donor area hold up for 7000 grafts overall?
I won’t take any medications but considering using min
Would I risk over harvesting with 7000 grafts?
Would you recommend another clinic?
My theme is to focus on where you are now in your balding cycle. Is your hair fine, medium or coarse? Coarse hairs have 10 times the value per hair compared to fine hair. What is your average donor density? Knowing these numbers will allow YOU to decide how many grafts from your total donor supply you should use on this first procedure and what areas you will cover. In your case, you will likely develop a Class 7 pattern, so if you use up all of your donor supply now, then what is next? Beard hair has value on top and in the crown and can increase your available hair (usually 2000-3000 hairs available for transplantation); however, chest and arm hair has very little value because (1) the hair cycle is very short and the telogen cycle is long which means that only about half of the hairs transplanted will be growing at any one time, and (2) body hair is fine, which means it brings little value.
Too many doctors don’t put together a Personalized Master Plan for their patients, so that is what I am showing you here. You asked me for an opinion, so I would transplant about 3000 grafts for the frontal area and into what appears to be a thinning bridge and stop there. Of course, that number will vary depending on your hair thickness. For example, if your hair was coarse, I might only transplant 2000-2200 grafts, but if your hair was fine, I might go to 3000-3300 grafts. The impact on the donor area with coarse hair will be negligible, while the impact of taking 3300 grafts with FUE from the donor area will be significant. The consequence of donor depletion is found more with fine hair than coarse hair men.
I saw two different dermatologists. The first just ran her fingers through my hair and said I had alopecia. She recommended minoxidil topical and neutrofol. The second used a microscope, and I think she said I had telogen effluvium. She recommended minoxidil 2.5 mg and a topical mixture from a compounding pharmacy of minoxidil along with a small amount of finasteride (I think 7% minoxidil with 1% finasteride). So, based on what I have read, I thought I would try 1.25 mg oral minoxil. I know you can’t give advice, but in general, is topical minoxidil along with oral minoxidil necessary? Do you think finasteride is necessary for those with a lot of hair and have caught this early? Are there any other DHT, i.e. saw palmetto, etc. blockers that have been found to help with hair loss? Also, is it ever too early to start derma rolling?
Telogen Effluvium in a healthy young man is very unusual. If a young man has hair loss, it is genetic in over 90% of men. Did the doctor determine where and how much miniaturization you had? How did the dermatologist determine you had TE? What you need is a solid diagnosis before committing a lifetime to drugs.
In the past year, I underwent a hair transplant and have consistently used 1mg finasteride along with 1ml topical minoxidil twice daily. Throughout this time, I maintained a sedentary lifestyle without weight training, and there was no extreme shedding. However, in the last two months, I started a regular workout routine. Unfortunately, I’ve observed a significant increase in hair fall recently, causing some concern. I know that most people from this community won’t agree with me and might consider this a coincidence, but this feels like a reality to me. Keeping myself healthy and working out is something I’m going to keep doing anyway, but I also want to control the hair fall. After consulting with my doctor, he suggested doing more aerobic exercises than resistance exercises. Can that make any difference? Should I consider altering my workout routine? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Ask your surgeon how much miniaturization was present in the native hair that you had when you were transplanted. If your miniaturization was advanced, that would explain the hair loss. Usually (over 80% of men who take finasteride after a hair transplant are protected from shock loss). I would have expected that taking finasteride protects the miniaturized hairs present at the time of the hair transplant. But the finasteride protection rule is not 100%. I don’t believe that exercise had anything to do with your hair loss.
This man will have to take a second pass at the transplant, this time with a better surgeon. 2000 grafts should have filled his frontal hairline reasonably well. Also, note that the hairs are pointing to the sides, like the spokes of a wheel. This is a common mistake made by surgeons that seem to have a problem learning which direction the hair grows. Forward!
The clinics told me that your transplanted hairs are not sensitive to DHT, but I hear everyone here many people saying that these hairs can also fall out, is this correct?
Transplanted hairs from the donor area are protected against DHT and balding; however, your native hair is not and if you have any miniautirzed hairs in your head, they will fall out unless you are on finasteride. In addition, your pattern of balding will advance, so finasteride slows that down.